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So you want to start CrossFit,
and you find out it's more Big Brother.
I love the chase and the hunt,
and I set the pace when I'm running.
I always take what I want,
and I always give it one hundred.
Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
Play the game like it's nothing.
I'm always thankful for something.
Don't take for granted, stay humble.
Now wake up!
It's time to look at the enemy.
Look in the mirror if he is no
friend to me.
It's not working out,
maybe it's the chemistry.
It's time to break up so I can
make a better me.
Yee-haw-ba-da-ba-doo!
It's lunchtime!
What is going on, everybody?
It is lunchtime,
and we got the cowboy today.
I got a mic.
And he's got a mic.
He's got a mic.
What is going on, Meredith, Vicky, Frida?
Good to have you all with us today.
Before we get into too much,
and there's a lot going on, like...
With all the tea going on in the
CrossFit space,
Jenny's going to have to do a daily
dense update.
Bruh, it's ridiculous.
It is.
The sheer volume of stuff that has
exploded in the past, I don't know, what,
five days, six days, something like that.
So crazy.
Yeah, bless her.
Bless her for keeping up,
for being able to keep up.
Well, let's start there.
I'll go on my riff later.
So yesterday, I kind of went off.
I saw this guy from CBG.
We've actually had him on the show.
He was interviewed by Charlie back in the
day.
Okay.
Yeah, Vicky, we know there's that code.
Trust us.
We're working on it.
The equipment just got here last night.
We're working through the issues of
getting everything set up just right.
I don't know if it's the office he's
in or whatever.
We've finagled with some buttons and we're
working on it.
We'll get it ironed out in the next
couple days for sure.
But at least we can hear him clearly
now.
Worst case scenario,
I'll just go back to my earbuds for
the rest of the day,
but we're trying to get it straight.
So, um, so yeah.
So yesterday I go on my Instagram,
there's all this stuff between Taylor self
and the CBG guy.
And again, full disclosure,
he's been on our show.
Charlie interviewed him a couple of times.
Um, it is, uh,
there is no reverb George Wang.
Actually, I do have a reverb button.
I just turned all the way down.
There it is.
Thank you, George Wang.
Yeah, that it's much better now.
Okay, good, yeah.
It was about halfway, FYI.
Okay.
Which is probably how it came out of
the box.
I didn't even pay any attention to it.
There we go.
Sound great.
I already got a fix for you, Vicky.
George, Meredith, there you go.
Appreciate it, Wayne.
So, okay, back to the story.
CBG guy, he's been on our show.
Apparently,
he's been called out that maybe the games
athletes do not –
do not actually do his program they just
get paid by him to say they do
it and he took offense to that he
went out and on a complete assault on
the comment sections around youtube
instagram and whatever um and then he went
old school mafia pulled out a wad of
cash said he was gonna fund
gonna find the rat i'm gonna find the
rat and uh which i don't get like
a rat is someone who turns on you
and spills the beans i don't know how
like i guess that's a rat all right
he was finding a rat i don't know
and i just like i'm perplexed that that's
how you decide to run your business
Now,
he's done things in the past that I
just don't understand.
And I know.
I have an MBA,
and I study business and we do case
studies.
I don't see guys doing marketing plans
with crunk teeth, thick chains,
eighties Oakley sunglasses,
Hulk Hogan outfits to advertise their
business.
That's not what I studied in school.
But he's chosen to be,
that's his persona and more power to him.
But then when you're in trouble like this,
it doesn't come off well.
When then you take all the stuff like
that,
the over the top stuff that he does,
and then go on a crusade through the
comment section.
Your thoughts.
And tag all of your own athletes.
To start off with.
And tell the people that you're talking
to, the audience,
to go ask them if they really do
the program.
So blow up all my athletes' DMs and
ask them if they really do my program.
I don't have an MBA, Scott.
FYI.
I have a couple semesters of college.
I was about to...
And I am fairly certain that that is
a, I don't even say a terrible idea,
a baffling idea.
What I'm going to do is I'm going
to call out all of my people.
Hey, these are all of my people.
If you know that they're not doing what
I have programmed for them to do,
you tell me and I'll have some money
for you.
What?
What?
What?
instead of going well you know what we're
having a difference of opinion and i'm
going to keep doing what i do and
you keep doing what you do and then
we'll just roll right on along i cannot
see this ending well for his business
especially well here's what i really not
seeing well is because before then
Like people were aware of them.
I would say,
I would say that people hadn't really done
much deep, deep dives,
but like the people that are in the
comments that are leaving testimonials now
about, oh,
I did this and I had this horrible
experience and I gave them this money and
then I decided I wanted to do it.
And they were like too late.
You already signed the contract.
I'm not giving you your money or your,
your meal plan for whatever.
And there's, it's more than one.
It's more than two.
It's more than three.
The last I checked,
there were several different stories in
there about how this dude was doing less
than above board business.
And nobody was saying anything before
then.
But now that you want to come out
there and huff and puff and pull your
chest out, now all of a sudden, oh,
you want to act like that?
Cool.
This is who this guy really is.
or at least who he was with those
particular people.
And it doesn't take much.
Dude, this community is not that big.
It's really, really, really not for them.
Let's be real, right?
Like when you're working on nutrition,
there's a couple templates out there that
are really just the only thing that's out
there.
Unless you're going like fad,
super crazy stuff.
The real business of nutrition coaching is
a relationship between you and your coach.
that person that you can talk to in
the time you need somebody,
the person you can talk to when you
need advice.
After the last few days,
do you trust this dude to be that
guy to have that conversation with?
Threatening to post before and after
pictures of your wife?
If you go public about any more of
this stuff, like,
That's not who I want to trust with
my,
I have a hard enough time getting on
the scale and let my own self see
it,
let alone like sharing that with a person
that I can't trust.
Who is now publicly stating these things.
Right.
Right.
For everybody to see.
Internet's forever.
Yeah.
It's mind boggling, dude.
It's mind boggling.
It's like, you know what?
We were doing pretty good.
We got some high-level athletes in here
and whatnot.
What can we do to completely tank that
as much as we possibly can?
Yeah, like, exactly.
They were actually getting some traction,
right?
Like, you know,
you have the Trista Smiths,
the Hattie Canyos, the Danielle Brandons,
the Haley Adams, all of that stuff.
And then you just totally tank it by
getting into an internet bully session.
Both Smiths.
And Jesse.
I don't know if they're still with him
because I didn't see their names posted,
but maybe I know they were with him
for a long time.
But here's the thing.
Like, okay,
you want to fight with Taylor Self?
That makes... That's fine.
Go fight with Taylor Self.
But two hundred fifty people commented on
Taylor Self's reel.
And then you dive into those comments and
not...
You're not like explaining what went
wrong.
You're not trying to like...
give an explanation as to what's happening
no you're gonna intimidate and bully
people in the comments and then expect
that to go well that's a joke it's
worse than a joke uh how he says
i almost feel bad for how much of
an idiot he seems like he must be
young
I think he was really successful as a
small company.
And this happens a lot in business, right?
As a small company, you do awesome.
And then you decide, well,
I need to grow bigger.
And then you're chasing the rabbit.
And not everybody is cut out to chase
the rabbit.
And I think what he got in,
he got in the deep end of the
pool and he can't hang.
The very deep end of the pool.
Uh, Vicki,
he has a group of coaches that work
with clients, maybe not elites, but still,
is it possible that some people had issues
with some of the coaches and not him
directly?
I actually heard the exact opposite Vicki.
I've actually heard that his coaches are
actually pretty awesome.
Um,
it's the people that have to deal with
him directly that have had the issue.
which is sad because you're employing
these coaches who are so like,
so how do you,
can you does not work with him, right?
How do you works with a girl named
Amanda?
And I got to meet her at the
games last year.
She is amazing.
She is nothing like, right.
She, she don't wear crunk teeth.
She doesn't wear big, thick chains.
She was a very supportive person for
Hattie during the games.
And, um, and she was awesome.
What's sad is he goes out and does
all this stuff and he's blowing up his
business that support all of these
coaches.
So now they're either going to have to,
if it blows up,
they're going to have to find their own
business to run or find another company to
link up with to continue what they're
doing.
And now people like Hattie have to look
at that and go,
do I really want to be associated?
Even though my actual coach is amazing,
is a rock star,
do I really want to be associated with
this dude who is the face of the
company at this point?
Well, and I don't know this for sure.
Like her and Amanda are tight.
So it wouldn't surprise me that she was
with Amanda before Amanda got with CBG.
Right.
Right.
But now you have this guy out there
putting your name out there,
DM this woman and ask her if she
does my program.
Which is, I already said it once,
but good Lord, that's crazy.
Hunting cardio bunnies.
Yeah, to me,
hiring a personal coach is almost like
hiring a friend or accountability buddy,
if not just by the RP templates.
I wouldn't even call it a friend.
I would call it more an accountability
person.
I feel that to have a coach,
it's hard to have a personal relationship
as a friend and be the coach.
You want someone that has a vested
interest in you,
but you're not hanging out together.
because they can look at things more
objectively.
Right.
But that's me.
It doesn't work that way.
No, I would say my,
my nutrition coach is,
is definitely one of my best happens to
be one of my best friends,
but she doesn't cut me any slack.
Right.
If you have that, that's awesome.
yeah she's she's amazing she's trained
partner her and i fixing to do a
competition together um the beginning of
the month next month uh and but she
doesn't cut me any slack like hey bro
i'm fixing to cut you fixing to cut
you you know matter of fact she cut
my fat this week oh because i'm leaning
out but yeah tristan the comment section
was interesting says tristan he is not
wrong
He is not wrong, not at all.
Vicki, this is an excellent point.
RP, et cetera, doesn't work for everyone.
I'm a nutrition and mindset coach,
and it's about way more than the food.
Mindset, psychology, mental issues.
All of that is more than about what
the wound is, whatever that is,
whether the wound be I'm addicted to food
or whether the wound be like I'm depressed
or whether usually there's a cause of the
wound.
And it's finding that cause that solves
the problem.
Not addressing the wound.
Right.
I am a big cause person.
I don't want a bandaid.
I want to know,
I want to fix it, right?
I am a fixer.
I want to know what's wrong so I
can fix it.
I don't want to just patch it up.
I don't want to cover up symptoms.
I want to fix it.
And it doesn't work for everybody.
A lot of people just want problems to
go on.
No, I don't want to do that.
I want to fix things.
Big, big, big difference.
Big difference.
I want to know why.
I want to change habits so that I
can fix it.
I think that's kind of the CrossFitters
mentality, right?
And Vicky brings it up here.
I approach it from a functional medicine
perspective, too,
so I can incorporate that into meal
planning, et cetera.
Exactly.
You're looking for the thing that solves
the problem, right?
Getting fit, eating right.
That's what gets things better.
But you've got to figure out what's
causing the binge eating or the cravings
or whatever it is.
And in this pharmaceutical world we live
in today,
so many people just want the pill or
the Band-Aid to go over the wound, right?
Give me two pills.
Give me six pills.
Give me eight pills, right?
Instead of figuring out what is it that's
causing this,
and maybe I can eliminate that from my
life and then move forward.
Oh, are these six pills causing...
whatever side effects here are these two
pills to take care of the side effects
oh yeah like it's pills on pills on
pills on pills dude so uh we started
we being me and my wife started a
uh documentary night before last or so uh
somebody somebody's family killed somebody
else's husband something along those lines
whatever not the point it's on Hulu we
have Hulu with ads right ad last night
was the wildest most specific you know
because they show it's all it's not all
but it's vast majority like take this pill
at it's actually a doctor is this pill
right for you at it was a
I forget the name of the website.
It'll come to me in a little bit.
But it was a pill for if your
penis had a bend in it.
Yeah.
And they hold up the carrot.
Yes.
Broken carrot.
Yeah.
Oh, my God, dude.
That was the first time I'd seen that
one or we had seen that one last
night.
And I looked over because Jennifer was
sitting on the other side of the couch
for me.
And she's just sitting there literally
with her jaw open like,
is this really on TV right now?
Jason Board once signed up.
I truly just thought it was Naoman I
had to live with my whole life.
Didn't even know there was a Band-Aid for
it, man.
Here's the thing, dude.
We thought,
honestly thought it was a skit at first.
You know what I'm saying?
It was going to turn out to be...
Yeah.
Something along those lines.
And like,
They never cut away.
Nope, nope.
This is what this is for.
Right then and there.
Holy smokes, dude.
Jody says, meanwhile,
hers ads are popping up nonstop in the
chat.
That's why I pay for the premium YouTube.
I just can't.
Her's ads.
I watch YouTube more than any other
streaming service under the sun.
And I,
I got rid of ads cause I just
can't.
The, uh, hers hymns in a row.
Yeah, bro.
Then row people, they, they,
and everything.
Yeah.
Goodness.
I don't watch a lot of TV, Scott.
And I know that they are everywhere.
Um,
Corey, the majority of them are wild.
I've actually watched TV where the one
commercial is, hey,
this is for erectile dysfunction,
but it may cause hair loss.
And the very next ad is, hey,
you got your solution for hair loss.
And they run back and back.
Yeah, that's what I was just saying, dude.
Oh, do you have problems from this?
You should take this.
pharmaceutical industry man it feeds upon
itself and it's i think there's so much
strategy involved with that that will
release this and then we'll have the
solution to the side effect with this and
so on and so on yeah frida i'm
glad i live in a country where drugs
can't be advertised it just blows my mind
like growing up that was not i i
don't know why they legalized it
Because enough lobbyists got involved,
they got paid,
and they decided to go ahead and change
the rules.
My two favorite things about those
commercials are ask your doctor if this
pill is right for you.
And the second best thing,
my second favorite thing is the side
effects.
May cause, and they just start talking.
Yeah.
Everything from bleeding from your eyes to
sudden and horrific death.
Don't take this if you're allergic to what
it's made out of.
How am I supposed to know if I'm
allergic to what it's made out of unless
I take it?
Right.
There's one ad that said, here's pill A.
Don't take if you're allergic to pill A.
Well,
how the hell am I supposed to know
if I'm allergic to LA?
Like they're not even using an ingredient.
They just say the product name.
Right.
Um, Shanna, who is, you know,
our CFM BL one, uh, hate the industry,
uh,
um it's mind-boggling to me that like you
these doctors go to school for like seven
years or whatever it is to get their
degree and now you the consumer who has
no education based on a thirty second ad
you're supposed to go to your doctor and
say hey i want this oh
That's got me thinking about the stuff
that we used to,
when they first started coming out with
all the, you know,
the various ads or whatnot that we no
longer see.
Has restless leg syndrome been cured?
Do you remember restless leg syndrome?
I do.
Yeah.
Has it been cured?
Because I haven't seen a commercial for it
in probably five years.
Yeah.
Shana, I love you, Scott.
You understand.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
Love you back.
I think we had something here.
Hold on.
The nutritionist also advertising GLPs
makes me sick.
Not saying some people may not need them
to a degree, but WTF.
Absolutely.
The easiest way to know everything you
need to know about pharma is no one
in the industry takes anything they sell.
The, I forget what they were called,
but they were like three different ones
that were about the painkillers, you know,
the opioid crisis and whatnot,
when they were overprescribing Oxycontin
and whatnot.
There's like three different that are all
basically about the same set of people.
You watch those guys,
like the salesmen that are going to these
doctor's offices and, you know,
prescribe this, blah, blah,
so they could get money.
None of those people want Oxycontin.
Not a single one.
Well, here in Ohio,
the opioid epidemic is so big.
I mean, at work,
we have grants to try to get people
out into recovery, so on and so forth.
And if you actually need a painkiller,
like the amount of paperwork you have to
sign off on now at the doctor to
get a legit painkiller.
And then, like,
I think when I had my back surgery,
they made me go to a class and
learn about opioids.
And what their effects could be.
But I'm that guy that like,
as soon as I can get off the
med, I want off the med.
Right.
You give me, you give me oxy.
I I'm taking it until I can tolerate
the pain and then it's gone.
My wife had shoulder surgery.
When was that?
Three years ago.
Something along those lines.
And.
you know,
twelve hours in between or whatever the
case in between.
And she did every single thing she
possibly could to not take any of her
pain medicine for that reason.
She didn't want it.
She didn't want anything to do with it.
She didn't like how it made her feel.
And she didn't want to even take a
chance that she was going to enjoy it
and therefore end up being hooked to it.
So like she was a soldier, dude.
It was
Horrible to watch because she was in so
much pain,
but it was incredible to watch because she
just soldiered through like the vast
majority of it.
Mark Phillips responding to your restless
leg syndrome.
Remember, I get kicked every night.
Amen, brother.
Amen.
I don't know if my eight-year-old has it,
but if you – on the off chance
when she –
wakes up in the middle of the night
and has come and crawl in bed with
us dude she sleeps sideways and kicks us
pretty much the entire night it's insane
um
I was going to bring up the DB
thing.
Dents did a great job kind of summarizing
it.
If you didn't see the Hiller video on
Brittany Weiss,
he asks her why Daniel Brandon hates her
as in it in like the Hiller kind
of like jabbing, joking fashion.
And then brings up the fact that when
Brittany won crashed,
Danielle screenshotted her bio on
Instagram where she said she was a games
athlete and dogged her for saying that
being a team games athlete or team games
champion.
And Hiller has another segment on it in
his latest video.
I think it just came out right before
we went on the air,
so I haven't got a chance.
Earlier today,
I didn't get a chance to watch it.
I didn't get a chance to check out
Jenny's video yet either because I had to
Google it.
Yeah,
I didn't get to notice on Jenny's until
later this morning because they've started
that new channel.
And I did subscribe last night,
but it didn't notify me until a couple
hours after it went live.
Usually,
I wake up to pee and that's when
I see it.
I don't...
I don't want to go into the DB
thing again.
Cause like,
it's just the same old stuff over and
over again.
Now there's people coming out of the
woodwork saying she's a homewrecker and
doing the long reel on Instagram and all
this.
I don't need,
I don't need to go into all that
stuff, but so Jenny summer really well.
Fun fact.
I started watching that.
There was long reel on Instagram about the
girl.
And then I got,
Thirty five seconds into it.
And I said, you know what?
I really don't care.
Yeah.
And I just with you, I was like,
I looked at the line on the bottom
and it was only like a tick over
with a whole bunch to go.
And I'm like,
there can't be this much to the story.
There's no possible way.
There's no possible way.
So I just moved on with my life.
Oh, well, there you go.
There, Chattanooga did it for us.
The Homewrecker Post lady didn't say
anything anyhow.
So the other thing that came up in
the whole like this is bizarro reality
show CrossFit thing is the Josie Hamming
thing having an OnlyFans account.
So I wanted to do a deep dive
investigation to find out about this
OnlyFans account.
And I did it without going on OnlyFans,
just so you know.
Good job.
I went to Reddit to kind of see
what the uproar was about.
And I don't go to Reddit unless I
absolutely have to.
But all of the complaining on Reddit was
that she doesn't show anything anyway.
It's her Instagram account on OnlyFans.
Yeah.
And so everybody's making this big deal
about it.
And it's really just people paying for her
Instagram account that they can get for
free.
And God bless her for that.
Yeah.
If she can get paid for it and
not even have to do a new picture,
just copy it over from Instagram.
I'm going to take the stuff that men
are willing to pay for that or women
are willing to pay for that.
More power to you.
And they are.
clearly they are because I can't find
where she does anything else.
She works out and takes pictures of
herself or people take pictures of her
regionals athlete for a minute,
like a team athlete for a minute.
But, and I think,
I think her brother is actually one of
the eighth day CrossFit gym members on the
team.
And Jamie knows the family because she's
from that Michigan area.
um so jonathan says it's not new
apparently he's been a member for about a
year and a half no i'm just kidding
um she has a personal training program and
app good for her that she's got multiple
income streams there you go personal
training program app only fans that you
can don't actually have to pay for if
you follow her on instagram
Yeah,
it's so funny because when you get into
that cesspool of Reddit,
like everybody's complaining.
They're all complaining that,
it's nothing I can't see on Instagram.
Well,
you had to pay for it to get
there.
So what?
You got suckered in.
Yeah.
What did you think was going to happen
exactly?
I just, I found it humorous.
Well,
here's the thing is that you got suckered
into paying for it just to find out
that it was a,
it was what you already saw.
And now you complaining because it was
what you already saw.
Well,
if you were stupid enough to go and
try to pay for only fans to begin
with, then that's on you.
Um, Vicky, I agree.
Nobody should judge if that's how someone
makes their money.
It isn't hurting anyone else.
I, I completely agree with you.
Um,
Me and the homies take bets on which
CrossFit athlete will be the next on
OnlyFans.
Yeah, I know.
I actually found Christmas Abbott has an
OnlyFans account too.
That's unsurprising.
Yeah.
When I was diving through Reddit,
I saw that as well.
That's unsurprising.
I think I actually already knew that
because I think Saban might have mentioned
it once or twice before,
which it doesn't surprise me that he knows
that Christmas Abbott has an OnlyFans
account.
Yeah.
so if jonathan and his friends are taking
bets on who's next i wanted to get
in on that text thread because i have
my i have my own opinions about who's
going to be uh on there sooner rather
than later yeah i don't want to talk
i don't care i don't either um so
anyway
Some other news.
I watched the Froning podcast yesterday.
I love Rich Froning.
I love Rory.
They've always been good to me in person.
Rich is my favorite CrossFit athlete of
all time.
That was hard to get through yesterday.
Really?
Really hard.
And I watched the Rory Froning podcast.
But one thing was said that for the
Mayhem Classic,
they were looking into using the Rogue
leaderboard to make their picks as to who
would be invited to the Mayhem Classic to
qualify for the games.
And I guess there was a big uproar
about that.
And they actually said on the show,
and Barbellspin has reported it since,
that...
People are upset because WFP is included
in the rankings and that Rory actually
talked to Katie and they're thinking about
removing WFP from the Rogue rankings
because a couple of the top athletes have
dropped out.
I mean, that would make sense.
You would either have to do that or
you'd have to shave it down to only
the people that did both,
if it's going to be fair,
if the others should be going off of.
Well,
I think it's more an indication of where
WFP is heading and the way it's being
viewed now by the elite athletes.
And I just found it interesting.
It wasn't like to be a big,
long discussion topic, but...
Um, he says,
I still haven't gotten the whole way
through the video yet.
Uh, the mayhem one, not the,
the only fans.
Thank you for clarifying there.
Thank you.
Uh,
Larry says they always take a while to
get to the point on their content.
I, I don't even mind storytelling time.
Like I really enjoy hearing about the old
days and stuff like that.
Um, I just, I don't know.
I did yesterday was tough.
It was really, really tough.
So I don't know.
Tristan says, personally,
I don't love that they include Wadapalooza
in their ranking.
I'm kind of waiting on that one.
It's not enough events.
I know,
but if you only do the game season,
then you're just replicating what's out
there, right?
And if someone gets hurt and they can't
do the game season,
there's no other way to make up any
points.
I get trying to include some other things
in the mix.
And their own event only invites twenty
people,
so you're not getting a huge data set
from that either.
Right.
So I think they've got it.
I think they have to use some of
the other stuff.
I actually, honestly,
I think the point system is stupid.
I like the way they were doing it
before.
Just invite the people you want to invite.
You're an invitational.
I was about to say,
it literally says mayhem invitational or
qualifier, excuse me, rogue invitational.
Invite whoever you want to invite.
Yeah,
just stop with the points and stop with
all the speculation and why did you skip
this point person who had more points than
that point person.
Just invite who you want.
Call it a day.
You know,
it's definitely be the easiest thing to
do.
Just, Hey,
we're going to invite these people.
And if you don't like it tough,
we have a bazillion dollars and you don't.
And that's who we're inviting.
Yeah,
because you know they want to invite their
own athletes, right?
They pay them to be on there.
They're going to invite their athletes,
and they have every prerogative to do so.
They say what they are.
Now, if they were trying to say, hey,
we're trying to find the fittest,
and then did that stuff,
that makes no sense.
But you're just doing an invitational.
It's a showcase.
Do whatever the hell you want.
And they should,
they've been doing whatever the hell they
wanted since they've been a company.
Yeah.
So like, why, why are you,
why are you giving out points?
And, and it just,
it's literally called a rogue invitational
for a good solid reason.
Invite who the hell you wanna invite and,
and go on about your business because now
you you're, you're,
I don't wanna say setting a,
setting a standard,
cuz that's not necessarily correct, but.
You have this point system and you have
this rogue system or whatnot.
And now other people are looking at it
and going, well,
maybe we should base our invites off of
that because it's there.
And because rogue is so highly vetted and
highly respected and whatnot, it's there.
So other people look at it and go,
well,
why don't we just go off of that?
Because that's already established.
It's already a thing.
Well,
I think it gets hairy now that Rich
is like, hey,
I've been a Rogue athlete for fifteen
years.
I want to support Rogue,
so let's use their leaderboard.
Now it's being spread out amongst the
community,
and maybe that's not what it was intended
for to begin with.
Right.
Also, you want to support Rogue,
you have been.
Like,
you only use rogue equipment at Mayhem,
I am certain.
I'm sure the Mayhem Classic has a rogue
rig.
I saw Vicky say maybe they should use
Apollo.
I bet you Rich and Rory don't even
know who Apollo is.
Probably not.
If I had to guess,
they have no idea who Barclay Dale is,
much less Apollo Rankins.
And this is not a bad thing.
They have their own bubble.
They do everything themselves.
So they don't really know everything going
on outside of that bubble.
They have their own media team.
They have their own team.
They just don't need to...
I would love to see somebody on their
show bring up Apollo rankings just to see
the confused look on Rich and Rory's faces
because they'd be like, who?
If anybody knows Angelo,
Angelo seems to have his finger more on
outside the bubble than the others do.
And I see it like Jonathan saying Rory
probably knows vaguely.
I don't know that he does anymore.
I mean,
if you asked me that five years ago,
I'd say he'd know.
Right.
But I think Angelo definitely has probably
his pulse,
finger on the pulse more than the others
on what's going on in the space.
Because he watches the shows.
He comments on the shows.
So he knows what's going on.
Hell, he's on some of the shows.
Right.
It wouldn't surprise me if we go back
and look.
You probably take a little bit of digging
to see a show that Barclay was on
that Angelo was also on.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
Yeah.
So another piece of news, Gabby Magala,
Magawa,
it was announced that she is now at
TTT.
She's been there for seven or eight
months.
Seven or eight months.
Adam Rogers.
And she announced today,
or someone announced today,
I think I saw it on the spin,
that she is doing Wadapalooza.
Yeah, it was on the spin.
Yeah.
Good, man.
So my question to you is great for
Gabby.
That's, that's not the story here for me.
My story is remember every off season and
we don't have much of one anymore with
the WFP going all the way to December.
I remember in the off season,
there was always this camp movement.
Yeah.
Like people going from TTT to HWPO going
to proven going to mayhem all this.
We haven't heard any of that.
Like when I saw this with Gabby going
to TTT,
that's like the first movement I've heard
all off season.
Do you think,
do you think that days of movement are
over?
I don't know if the days of movement
are over,
but I think until something else comes
along or some other athletes come along,
that's going to shake shit up.
I think everybody's kind of satisfied
right now.
Right.
Right.
Like the Brute guys aren't going anywhere.
No,
I don't think the Proven people are going
anywhere.
Proven people seem to be pretty happy
where they are.
The Mayhem people are the Mayhem people.
Until you hear of a new name that
comes up and, you know,
I don't want to say burst on the
scene,
but like Austin Hadfield is a good
example.
Nobody knew who Austin Hadfield was and
all of a sudden he's a Mayhem athlete.
I say that John, you're not the first.
It's been a pretty quiet though.
Yeah.
I,
first I try to block that out because
I want to bring it up.
And so I, I just,
the only time I even think about that
is when I'm trying to finish up this
damn documentary.
And I just, I have,
I'm having a hard time with that.
I didn't want to bring it up, Tristan.
I knew you in the chat.
I didn't want to mention it.
It makes me sad.
So I don't bring it up.
We still love you.
I'm just giving you guys a hard time.
Yeah.
And for people who don't know,
just because maybe we're under rock,
Hattie Cano left Tristan and is now with
Brute.
That happened right after the season.
And it makes me sad.
Let's stop saying Hattie left Tristan and
let's say Hattie left Ascend and Tristan
is no longer her coach because we've
already had this discussion in like
Hattie and Tristan were definitely not
dating.
So let's keep that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, you're right about that.
He doesn't pay his bills.
That is a fact.
That is a fact.
I am going to go when I get
an opportunity to go.
When I head that way for a little
mini vacation,
I'm going to go train with him when
I get out there.
Larry says it made me wonder if it's
because Laura's coming back to train with
Ben.
I don't think that's happening.
I think something happened at the twenty
four games that severed the Gabby Ben
group from Laura Kristoff in that group.
And I think Laura is now permanently over
in Hungary doing her thing at her gym.
There was definitely some sort of catalyst
because they were entirely too tight
before for them not to be anything now,
which is what seems to be the case.
Yeah.
I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll,
I'll, I'll,
Uh, Brittany Weiss back at Invictus.
I don't consider that movement.
That's where she kind of became famous.
Hattie moved to Brute and then Nick
Matthews Kringle to Brute.
Um,
Nick Matthews and Kringle's coach moved to
Brute and they just went along with him.
Uh, that's like saying that, uh,
Oh, good Lord.
Why can I never remember her name?
That is mind boggling to me.
But moved to HWPO.
Yeah, well, of course she did.
Because Justin did.
Yeah, of course she did.
Speaking of Justin,
this isn't even on my list of stuff,
but prayers out to him.
He's been in the hospital for some time
now.
I was texting with his wife the other
day.
It's been a rough week.
Apparently, he has colitis.
He had a flare-up first time in thirteen
years.
He made a post on Instagram.
That's why I'm sharing it.
If you wouldn't have made it public,
I wouldn't have
I wouldn't like, um,
I've been texting him.
I've been texting his wife.
It's, it's just tough.
Like when you have two small kids to
be spending that much time in the
hospital, um,
and it's been a stress on the whole
family.
Um, he's doing okay.
Just trying to feel better.
Um,
so hopefully they get some answers soon
and he gets home.
Um, so, uh, with that.
So anyway,
the whole premise of that thing was not
to like say that,
I think camp movement has slowed
tremendously.
I mean, in the last couple off seasons,
it's been like half the field has switched
camps.
And now all of a sudden,
we're just getting a trickle.
And it used to be worse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When people first started noticing that
there were, in fact, camps,
when it wasn't just one person was with
this or one person was with that,
but there were entire teams of people that
were training together,
that seemed to switch up, like you said,
every year and dramatically.
Oh, no, no,
these people are not with these people
anymore.
Now they're with that people.
Oh, no, no, no.
Now this one's not with that one anymore.
Now they're over there.
Yeah.
it seems to be maybe on a bit
of a downward thing,
but I think once I got,
I was trying to get that point across
earlier.
I don't think I did a very good
job.
Like when new people roll in,
I think like, Oh,
I'm I've been following this program in
forever.
Now I made it to semifinals or now
I'm, you know,
knocking on the door of a game is
spot or whatnot.
I'm going to make that jump and I'm
going to go to here,
wherever that may be to try to get
myself to the next level or whatnot.
Yeah.
I think that's what it's going to take.
And maybe they're going to need a whole
new crop of people to be able to
do that kind of stuff.
But I don't see a whole huge crop
of people coming in at this point just
because of the established people that are
there or pretty solidly in their
positions.
Yeah, there's always going to be turnover.
It's hard to predict when you,
there's less,
there's less competitions to see who the
competition is going to be for the next
up and summer.
So it's going to be more of a
surprise as they enter the fold in these
years than it was in years past.
This is Ortega letting us know right now.
He switched from Brute to Sentinel.
Yeah.
Doesn't count.
We'll consider this your press release
right here, Jonathan.
I did want to,
I do have like a little riff to
end the show on.
So I used to,
I used to run programs in my job
or run, yeah, like programs in my job.
And I,
and then I ran the training team and,
um, for the state of Ohio.
And like,
I was in a meeting today about a
training that was being done and I got
PTSD from like the,
the people that I have to work with
who do not,
do not understand what it's like to do
your job well.
Right.
This is going to be a scream at
the clouds riff here.
So if there's a policy that says that,
so we work for the state of Ohio.
Our goal is to serve Ohio citizens.
We have a job bank that we put
job listings into to help Ohioans find
work.
If you live on the West Virginia,
Ohio border and right across the river,
there's a company that's hiring Ohioans.
Wouldn't it make sense to allow that
company to then post jobs in our system?
Right.
Because you're getting jobs for your
citizens,
even though the company doesn't reside in
your state.
So, and that's allowed, right?
The people on this training want to be
told the exact mileage across the border
they're allowed to accept employers to be
put into this system.
I come from a world where flexibility is
good.
And if I work in that local county
in that area,
I know the businesses that are hiring our
people.
Like I know that's my job.
That's what I do.
And so if you're good to us,
we'll be good to you.
Let me have that flexibility to determine
who those good people are.
But no,
they want like a thirty mile radius.
And then if you're at thirty one, no,
we're not.
We can't help you.
Because that employer at thirty five miles
may be so damn good that people are
willing to drive from Ohio down to that
company for a job.
But no,
we can't do that because I'm sorry,
you're at thirty five miles, not thirty.
Never mind the fact that their tax money
is still going to be spent in Ohio
because that's where they live.
Correct.
Correct.
And your unemployment rate for an Ohio
citizen is going down.
because they got a job, right?
Why the hell,
why the hell have we gotten to this
place in the world where it's more
important to cover our ass than it is
to serve the people we're supposed to
serve?
It goes back to CBG boy.
It was more important for him to cover
his own ass, bouncing around the comments,
doing what he's doing,
than to serve his people.
No, let's not serve my people.
Let's put them out for public scrutiny so
people can DM them and ask them if
they're following my plan.
So it's fear, right?
Scared of your own shadow,
scared to do your job.
Right.
But if you do your job,
everything else works out.
They don't see it that way because they're
terrified because what if I do my job
and I do it too good?
No, I don't have a job anymore.
Oh, no,
I got to show that I did something.
So I'm going to put this boundary on
it.
I'm not saying it's right.
I'm just telling you that's how people
think.
This country has been around for two
hundred and fifty years.
Has there ever been a time in this
world, in this country's existence,
that everybody had a job and wanted one?
So your job is not going away.
Because there are always people who need
help finding a job.
Absolutely.
Do your job too well,
you get other people's work.
Come on, man.
I don't...
I guess I just come from a different
world where seeing this person who's been
struggling to put food on the table and
needs a job and finding them a job
where they can now support their family
gives me way more reward than the angst
of having to do more of the same
thing.
Helping more people.
God forbid I help more people.
Being able to help more people.
I literally had a splitting headache after
this meeting.
Because we were literally arguing about
what line should we stop serving people?
How about this?
The line that the people are not willing
to cross.
Let's go with that.
That's where it stops.
If I'm here in Louisiana, it is...
an hour and forty five ish minutes to
the Mississippi border.
OK,
if that's where my job's at and that's
what I'm willing to do every single day,
then that's where I'm going.
So why why are you putting why are
they putting or trying to put an arbitrary
line right there when I still live here?
All the money I spend that you're going
to get back in tax revenue, whatever,
is still going to be here.
I'm going to be able to put food
on my table.
So who gives a shit about how far
out
I have to go.
Other than me.
The people that are supposedly
complaining,
because I have not heard from the people.
I've only heard from their bosses.
Surprise, surprise.
The people supposedly complaining,
their job is to assess the job market
in their area.
They are housed in that area.
And then to go recruit employers to use
our system for job postings,
as opposed to like indeed or some of
those other places.
Right.
Yeah.
And then we will help with the recruitment
process.
We will help with, Hey,
here's a list of good candidates.
Here's a list of whatever.
Right.
And take off some of the burden of
an employer and going through a job
search.
by doing part of the weed out process
or whatever.
If your job is to assess that area,
you better damn well know who the good
employers are and who are the ones that
are actually hiring our people.
Right?
Yeah, I would think so.
Yes, Mark, it's a state program.
And I've probably crossed a line and
shouldn't have talked about it on this
show,
but
I'm not giving away any secrets.
I'm not giving away any names.
It's just ridiculous.
I had Social Security four weeks and I
was told to just go find a job
no matter how long I had to drive.
And I'm from Europe.
Wow.
Common sense for turnips.
That's the problem, Vicki,
is that common sense is not common
anymore.
Mark Phillips, no,
I'm just shocked it's a benefit.
Never heard of any states doing that
before.
Every state has the ability to do,
it's a federal program.
Every state has the ability to do this
program.
Now,
they get to make it look however they
want to make it look in their state,
but everybody has a part of a grant,
a federal grant.
Every state gets money from it.
All fifty take advantage of it,
and they can make it look however they
want,
but it is to help people find jobs
and recruit employers.
In Louisiana,
it probably looks like somebody's buying a
Cadillac.
That's about how corrupt our shit is down
here.
Well, you see how well advertised it is.
I'm involved in the hiring process pretty
often and never heard of it, Alabama.
So I would go to conferences in ten
states in the Midwest.
And I know those ten states were pretty
similar in how it looked and felt.
It had little things that were tweaked
differently here and there.
In Ohio,
we actually have people hired that their
job is to go out and talk to
employers about this and to help them weed
through the candidates.
Nice.
So I'm not saying all of them do
their job super well,
but we do hire them to do that
job.
And I haven't been out on the front
lines in almost ten years,
so I would not want to give an
assessment of the quality in which they do
the jobs.
I only ever talk to the supervisors now
because I'm with the systems team and we
just try to make the systems work for
them.
Right.
And every bit of that meeting today was,
this is why I don't do that job
anymore.
This is why I'm not out on the
front lines anymore.
always a good a good reminder to remind
yourself why this is why i do what
i do now instead of what i was
doing then exactly and i'm very happy
doing what i'm doing now and i don't
want to do that anymore yes lord all
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So, my sleep window is shortened,
but even in the shortened sleep window,
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It was like, oh,
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your HRV is – excuse me.
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